Tuesday, November 28, 2006

George Steiner

15 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Jimmy Pursey almost sung, George Steiner is innocent.

Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:24:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above comment was me ... I'm obviously so proud of it I can't stand to see it go anonymously.
And can't post as me at the moment due to Blogger.Com playing games.

St Anthony

Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:25:00 pm  
Blogger murmurists said...

Hey there St. A ... yeh, I get strange things happen when I visit your blog - an otherwise enjoyable experience is troubled by warnings of unsecure content and destination when I comment. I comment anyway, since I bought a Sex Pistols single at the age of 14 and routinely listen to Gates of Delerium by Yes. Obviously, then, I am devil-may-care. But it is most strange.

Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:06:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's bloody annoying ... I can post and put comments on my own blog at the moment, but no others. I made a mistake in switching to betablog, particularly when there seems to be no way to directly contact the mysterious masters of the blogosphere.
The Pistols and Yes? A strange and heady combination.

St Anthony

Friday, December 01, 2006 11:55:00 am  
Blogger murmurists said...

Ah - said on another comment re. beta-blog. I saw the sign up to it notice. But ignored it myself. Flipping technology...

Friday, December 01, 2006 1:12:00 pm  
Blogger murmurists said...

Yeh, punk AND prog! Pervert I am. I have Crass' Feeding the 5000 and Yes' Close to the Edge in my collection! I had this book in my head for years about how punk and prog were not discontinuous, inimical. A friend reckons I waited too long - as Simon Reynolds' 'Rip it Up' covers the same ideas. It does to an extent, but his fear of prog ruins it. Prog is infinitely more problematic, dangerous, and alt than punk, I believe. A Steve Howe guitar solo is much more frightening than anything by Killing Joke! Look at Lydon's love of Van Der Graaf Generator and Kate Bush. If it's Prog's supposed rarefied rural silliness that damns it, well nothing is more firmly entrenched in that department than Kate, I'd say! Prog-Punk was an idea, if you will, I had during my degree - some 15 years ago now. But I sat on it during the Doctorate! I haven't got the will to get to it now! All that postrock stuff is just Prog - with its purveyors too frightened to come out and say so, for fear of looking like fucking Marillion! Marillion were/are a 6th form history project; whereas, say, Magazine, to an extent Radiohead, and for sure Godspeed, Killing Joke, and Battles, are working in the spirit of Prog - making strange, experimentating, pushing the envelope, etc. Prog is Modernism, is my argument. When I hear stuff by modern composers like Mark-Anthony Turnage, I just think - sounds like Yes in 1973.

The instrumental passage of Gates of Delirium by Yes, from Relayer, does everything that Greil Marcus (in Lipstick Traces) says the end of Holiday in the Sun does.

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